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Reply to Aamir Khan's Satyamev Jayate - Does Healthcare Need Healing aired on 27th May 2012

All Medicos should read this and share with everyone. This is reply to Aamir Khan's Satyamev Jayate - Does Healthcare Need Healing aired on 27th May 2012. (You can watch it on Youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lg0kUtS8ic)

 

Dear Mr. Aamir Khan,
“NOT ALL DOCTORS ARE GREEDY”
“THERE IS NO PROFESSION THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CLEAN”
“DOCTORS ARE OBLIGED TO SERVE BY CHOICE, NOT BY COMPULSION”
Sir,
I have been a big fan or your work, life and principles. I am also a fan of ‘Satyamev Jayate’. But I was shocked to see the episode on 27th May, 2012. You are an Icon. You should have thought well and done the homework before doing such a biased show. There are only two people in the film industry that are being taken seriously by the thinking class of society, You and Amitabh Bacchhan. So, when you give such a biased and one sided version of a story, it hurts. Speaking about such a thing on a “commercial” TV show is bad. (I am sure you have taken a big amount, only doctor are supposed to do charity and social work, not actors!!! Right!)

I want to highlight few important points here. And yes I am qualified to make observations as I am a medical student.

 

1.Your guests and audience (the words were almost put in their mouth) said that private colleges charge a capitation fee of 40 – 50 Lacs for MBBS, you should have also produced some evidence of such practice. Like you call a victim in all your episodes, why not here? And do the same story Engineering, Architecture, Law and MBA colleges, do you think they are clean? Why target doctors alone?

 

2. You said Since 2001, government opened 31 medical colleges and 106 private institutes were opened. – Please note that today in India, there are a total of 181 Private and 152 Govt Medical colleges. So the number is not as bad s you projected. Don’t project only the time period which suits your story. Either give a complete picture or do not give a picture at all!
And also, please find out how many of these private colleges are owned by politicians? 95% of Private colleges in India are owned and run by politicians. It is a bloody nexus between politicians and MCI. The corruption by politicians is to blamed for the mess, not doctors!!!

 

3.One of your guest (Dr. Gulhati) said that doctors ask for 30% commission from Pharma companies to write their drugs. That is baseless, over-the-roof and sensationalizing the matter. That is as true as “Most Leading actors ask newcomers to sleep with them” or “Lawyers take money from both the sides in a legal battle” or “Most chartered accountants teach their clients how to save tax and also pass info to taxman on where his client saved tax”. I know all of you will shout “Where is the proof?”. So are doctors!!!

I am not trying to sensationalize things as you did on your show by shading those fake tears, but just trying to project that allegations are easy to make. I know you will say that this was the opinion of our guest, and not yours. But you provided a platform for these fake allegations.

 

4. You compared the numbers of Licenses cancelled in England and in India. I must say your team is quite resourceful and please collect and compare following details also –
a.Number of doctors beaten on duty by goons from various political outfits in government hospitals in UK and India in last 10 years, and also the number of people convicted for such crime.
b.The Stipend (Salary a post-graduate trainee doctor/intern gets) or Salary and accommodation facilities provided to the doctors of the two countries.
c.The duty hours and working conditions of the doctors of the two countries.
d.The academic and research infrastructure being provided to the medical students.

 

5. You said that the most brilliant students who take up medicine, should take it only for service to mankind, they should go to other fields if they want to earn. Why? Are we living in imperialism? Are doctors not allowed to earn and spend a good life? You were asking Dr. Devi Shetty whether he can do humanitarian work and Earn at same time? This is like asking Amirkhan or Shahrukh-khan their income and generalizing it for every actor in the industry (Even junior artists). Sir, just as there are only few Khans and Kapoors, There are even fewer Devi Shetty and Naresh Trehan who run their chain of Multi-specialty hospitals spread all over the country. See what it takes to become a doctor and then give such “Geeta-Gyan”.
a. 5 and half year of MBBS training and 1 more year of Compulsory Rural Internship at Rs. 15000 - 20000 per month. (Any other field eg. Engineering, Management, a person would become Postgraduate in this much time and start earning double the amount.)
If one doesn’t study further, the pay at this step is 22,000 per month.
b. After above 6 and half years of Graduation, 3 more years of Postgraduation, followed again by compulsory rural / Government job for 1 year or pay Rs. 25Lac bond.
If one doesn’t study further, the pay at this step is 40,000 per month.
c. After this above 10 and half years, 3 more years of Superspeciality, followed by 1 year of Govt job or a Bond of Rs. 2 Crore.

And the seats are so few with tough competition, there tends to be a gap of a year or two in preparing for various entrance exams.

 

6.Why only Doctors are being forced to work in rural and government hospitals after their study? Why only we should pay government if we don’t want to do it?

The rural/Govt sector needs help of Engineers, Lawyers, Chartered Accountants and MBAs also.

Why aren’t the Engineers sent to rural areas to design and monitor roads and industrials development?
Why aren’t the Lawyers forced to work as Public prosecutors before they can join some big foreign corporate firm?

Why aren’t the CAs asked to work in CAG office and various other government financial sectors before joining Multinational Giants?

Now government wants that doctors should not immigrate to other countries without asking them. Why? Are the IIT/IIM students stopped before they flee to foreign countries for big fat salaries? So, why us? What is it that government of society has done for doctors that they should repay? They bloody can’t even protect them from goons while on duty.

 

7.You say that doctors are writing unnecessary and costly medications. Do we decide the price of a drug? Do we manufacture or give license to drug manufacturers? Controlling the price of essential drugs is a government job. We are helpless.

Sir, its easy to point fingers. We don’t say that all is well. But all is not well anywhere. Its a different thing creating awareness about dowry or female feticide. But its entirely different to comment on such a technical and complicated issue without getting into the details of it.

You have maligned the entire medical fraternity. For every 10 doctors who are doing wrong, there are more than 1000 healers. You owe us an apology!!! This issue is not as simple as you think it is! Please show stories which are unbiased and straight-forward. You cannot do justice to such an issue, especially after charging a whooping amount for creating awareness!!!

(We hear that Amir has charged 3 crores for episode of Satyamev Jayate in which he spreads the message to doctors that they should not make money and do social service!!! How sacred!!! I don’t know if its true, but well, it’s the season of allegations!)

 

“We Doctors may be doing little social service, But at least we are not charging for it!”

- Doctor


In case you missed the episode on TV, watch it below.


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Well... maybe some of us ... had taken wrong ... what amir khan said..>>! he said in the show ... there are good doctors who does everything he can and there are bad doctors which thinks their profession as business... and he had not made up this think.... lots of people when u sit in hospital as a patient relative... u will hear their stories , how hospitals  had thug them.... and  instead of cursing mr. khan .... its important that we should come up with some initiatives to kick such kind of doctors, who creating bad influence on peoples mind. whatever he showed in the show , its not a lie and i accept that ... only this is the only professsion , where a person has a super-power , and yes we can become super-heroes with our own work..... so its on us... what we want to become our hero like dr. bevi shetty and others or named as evil-doctor.

A physician needs to take into consideration a thousand factors before the right diagnosis is made & this takes a lot of expertise and patience. For everything a physician would have done for a particular patient, there is a possibility of a minute error because unlike the western countries, physicians in india are over burdened & they dont have their teams to work. They need to do things on their own. There is no one to support them with their significantly heavy patient load. Despite all the difficulties mentioned above and in the post, any small unintentional error from the physicians side is projected in a big manner. It is high time when Clinical Pharmacists entered the field and supported the physicians were they can tell the patients that what their physician is doing for them is actually in their best interest & there is no drug free from Adverse Drug Reactions along with projecting the proper cost effective analyses. With such measures i hope that the social attack on doctors is bound to reduce & public will surely gain confidence in them and their practice

 

there are good and bad people in every field. I agree to everything in this post. Amir khan should be dared to expose the casting couch in the film industry,the flesh trade, etc.. bet he can do that.

Mr.Khan

You need to expose Political ,Administrative and Mafia nexus which are actual Monsters,But for that you will need real life guts and daring not reel life Heroism.

Judging ALL MEDICAL fraternity by handful people and partial data is shameful for a person like you who is suppose to be very good human and intelligent or it is just Pseudo?

Come out and speak against above nexus.

A physician needs to take into consideration a thousand factors before the right diagnosis is made & this takes a lot of expertise and patience. For everything a physician would have done for a particular patient, there is a possibility of a minute error because unlike the western countries, physicians in india are over burdened & they dont have their teams to work. They need to do things on their own. There is no one to support them with their significantly heavy patient load. Despite all the difficulties mentioned above and in the post, any small unintentional error from the physicians side is projected in a big manner. It is high time when Clinical Pharmacists entered the field and supported the physicians were they can tell the patients that what their physician is doing for them is actually in their best interest & there is no drug free from Adverse Drug Reactions along with projecting the proper cost effective analyses. With such measures i hope that the social attack on doctors is bound to reduce & public will surely gain confidence in them and their practice

These comments of Mr.Aamir Khan has been echoed by many.This is because that there are unscrupulous members of our fraternity. Doctors are perceived by the public differently as compared to other profession. 

Dear Faternity, 

Yes, There are both GOOD and BAD doctors...

As a patient, I have seen my share of both. 

I wonder why there is justification in this forum about corruption in other fields, Yes, there is a thing called casting couch, there is donation in MBA... but that doesnt justify that one shouldnt start Cleansing the dirt that there is  in medical education and practice.

And any ways, it is pure common sense that when someone pays LAKHS AND LAKHS, or MAY BE EVEN CRORES to study, it is a business they are getting into. It is as much the fault of the system as that of the doctor in preparation to sell and buy a seat. And yeah, basing it on the simple management principle... 'Garbage in Garbage out' , if money is what gets you to be a doctor, it is money that will rule the practice of such a doctor. 

I dont think any one should take this too personally, and if you are taking it personally... I am thinking you sure have something in you which is making you react defensively. I cannot point out what it is that is making you defensive, but yes! THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THE SYSTEM, AND IT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED/CLEANSED. 

So much so for the defensive argument that this article is, we all know the apex authority called the MCI is a den of muck and rut.  And things have only been proven time and again to support this argument. 

If it is a documentary, it takes to split the skin of the rotten organ below, the skin is this show. Obviously, the organ being operated on will hurt when being cleansed or set in right order.   So whoever is reacting in saying there is corruption and disorder in other fields... yes, there is, that doesnt mean you follow them like a flock of sheep. You are educated, you are the human societies living gods, so instead of bickering, take a higher path if you can and set your house right before commenting on others. 

-A patients view point.

 

A physician needs to take into consideration a thousand factors before the right diagnosis is made & this takes a lot of expertise and patience. For everything a physician would have done for a particular patient, there is a possibility of a minute error because unlike the western countries, physicians in india are over burdened & they dont have their teams to work. They need to do things on their own. There is no one to support them with their significantly heavy patient load. Despite all the difficulties mentioned above and in the post, any small unintentional error from the physicians side is projected in a big manner. It is high time when Clinical Pharmacists entered the field and supported the physicians were they can tell the patients that what their physician is doing for them is actually in their best interest & there is no drug free from Adverse Drug Reactions along with projecting the proper cost effective analyses. With such measures i hope that the social attack on doctors is bound to reduce & public will surely gain confidence in them and their practice

The post is compltly true....i compltly agrer with u....he shud av tought br potriatin doctors lik dat.....vry disapoitin
buddy i think that you are being unduely oversensitive on the issue .i agreewith you on one point that the real cause of this issue. Though i agree with you on one point that the administrative lapses are the real cause of all the rot in the system. About the private colleges , i think that amir actually just scraped the tip of the iceberg .only a small proportion of the colleges actually make proper admissions to the seats. Most of the seats are filled on donations. we all know how the recognition is given to these colleges . These colleges are totally run black money of politicians and corrupt beaurocrats. And they recover this money by donations.there are about 40,000 seats of mbbs out of which only10,000 are govt colleges (that is genuine medicos). I wont deny that excceptions are also there but most of these 30000 guys do not deserve to be doctors,and they are there on account of their parents black money. Moreover it doesnt stop there and these farjees cant dream of cracking ppg and use their wealthy and influential guardians to get a backdoor entry into a govt pg courses. Again let me reiterate that this not the case with all of them, i have indeed seen brilliant people from pvts but they are a
small minority.
And the fact about the comission is also totally correct. You might be unaware about these practices as yuo are a student ,when you step onto the field you will be better informed. So do not seethe with anger as the issues he raised are very real and should raise the hackles of every consciousdoctor. Not accepting the truth is nothing other than ostrich mentality.

Buddy, I think you are being insensitive to our view. I am of the opinion that there are both kinds of doctors; scrupulous & unscrupulous. When you project an issue you should look at the opinions & views held by both parties rather than just talking about one side of the problem.

Before you sermonise me, let me bring forth some deficiencies in the "case presentation". In case of Mr.Venkatesh, all you know is that he had an amputation. WHY? Was there osteomyelitis? The treating doctor's views are not given any value. As to Mr.Arvind, he had spent Rs.50000 & Rs. 80000 in the hospital allegedly. Again no further details are available. Then there is the lady whose father was advised 'emergency liver transplantation' by two physicians & then happily was provided a lesser diagnosis of Gastroenteritis. No primary diagnosis or evidence is offered. Then there is Maj. Pankaj Rai who alleges that a major surgery nothing short of Renal transplant was carried out WITHOUT HIS WRITTEN CONSENT. Do you think any doctor in his right senses will attempt a major surgery without a written consent? Again Aamir goes on to say/suggest that dialysis could be continued for 15 to 20 years. Is he a Nephrologist to suggest the best course of action? By the way all the documents regarding the case can be obtained on going to  http://ibnlive.in.com/news/satyamev-jayate-doctor-hits-out-at-aamir....

Look at the documents and then reply what you think. I repeat: I Know that there are black sheep among us. But going by the presented case, it is just too prejudiced. You can even see Aamir asking leading questions & putting words in their mouth.

Well I don not want to defend wrong doers in our profession but a Doctor is also a part of this society. When all parts of this society are curropt its very magical to expect all Doctors to be 100% honest.Politicians are suppose to serve the nation , Police is suppose to protect the poorest one,Judicial system is suppose to do justice to the last man in the society Beaurocrats are suppose to guide the nation to make the poorest and neglected parts of society to benefit from the development. Are all these people doing their duties properly? In all these areas Honesty is an  excepton,dishonesty is the rule,But in our profession majority are honest.If Mr. Khan is honest in his Motive ,he should have involved the constant political interference in Govt. sector health care system in his show.Ask any Govt. Doctor what go through to provide services in an  extremely overburdened and understaffed,illequipped hospitals,CHCs,PHCs.It is the whole system which is to be cleansed and we can start with our part.

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